Interview with the Father Santos Ganuza

"They won the war, but not peace"


Santiago Mª Amer
Mallorca
07.20.97


This monk from Navarra, a missionary of The Sacred Heart (in Spanish: los Sagrados Corazones), is an exceptional witness of the recent and continuing tragedies in Central Africa. His long experience in the conflict zone give him a wide and non common perspective.

- Father Santos, how long were you in Africa?
Thirty years. Twentyeight in various places in Rwanda (Kiziguro and Rukara) and two years in a refugees camp in Tanzania, but also with my parishioners.

- Do you think we are well informed?
- No. The tragedy is still alive, still continues. They won the war, but not peace, and if we really want peace, there is no other way than justice -and justice needs the truth. Things have been manipulated, the ethnic Hutu population satanized and this is the seed for new conflicts.

- How did normal life look like in your church?
- When I came to Rwanda in 1967, there lived this idea that the Hutus were inferior, not able to do slightly complicated tasks. Because of this idea they hardly had access to education. Nevetheless, the numbers of pupils in primary schools shot up in those years (from 600 to 14.000), which proves, that also many Hutus (80% of the population) went to school. The results were important, because they were loosing the slave-mentality. But now it has gone backwards.

- Why?
- The first fase of the conflicts was a real war of races, a fight for power. Once obtained, there was respect for the population. In the second fase everything got complicated. People were forced to flee, to desert the land, and it even came to active massacres and massacres by omission. With as result more than a million displaced people.

- The photos of what happened in your church were shown all around the world.....
- Yes, but the dead were Hutus. Many things were silenced or distorted. Once they massacred the refugees who were in the church, I had to leave the country. When I found out that many of my parishioners were in Tanzania, I wanted to join them. I do not need to give details about their miserable conditions. Worst of all, they were not safe there either and they were forced to return back, to a certain death.

- Were they not protected by the UNO?
- That is the real tragedy. The Commission for Refugees of the UN. acted totally against their principles. Everybody obeyed mysterious orders from very high up of those who desired to settle or liquidate ( the Spanish word -liquidar- has both meanings) quickly the problem of the refugees and of course without any concern for their wellbeing.. My people decided to rather undertake the long route back of more than 1000 km., thinking that at least the young ones would survive. I wondered about this situation and asked explications and.........

- And than your problems started.
- Yes, that is true. The officials of the UNO. and the Government excused themselves and their obedience, pointing at verry powerfull reasons. One of them, a moslim, asked me to pray and to write to the pope, because a catastrophe was happening. After an interview with the Governor I was arrested and thrown out of the country with the stamp dangerous in my passport. Now from here, I want to tell the truth and help the oppressed to come to their status according to their education and culture.

- What is that truth?
- The war of Zaire is programmed. Kabilla´s men are professional soldiers, no guerrillas. The mining and Anglophile interests (USA and South Africa) have overpowered and surpassed the old protection of the Francophones. It is sad that in this war of white people, again the black people are being killed.